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I was going to play 'Kiss me' by Stephen Tintin Duffy in church this morning because I was delivering my sermon on King Solomon's Proverbs and he also wrote those words in The Song of Songs (recorded in the Bible). I thought it might get complaints though, and while that wouldn't have bothered me too much - it would have been easy to explain that the words were taken from the Bible, and I like pushing traditional boundaries in church; it would have made, what was all ready a controversial subject, even more controversial. Most of you here on lj wouldn't consider it controversial but I knew a few old people in my church would. And unfortunately a few of them still have positions of authority.

The sermon itself went well. I'm definitely getting more confident at delivering. I left a gap in the middle where I gave everyone 5 minutes to discuss whether the passage that I was speaking on was just for women, or whether it applied to us all. There's one guy in our congregation who is from the more right-wing end of politics and he was engrossed in a debate with this other guy. The other guy was a visitor to our church. He was dressed in his Sunday best, which is unusual in our church, and that made me think that he might have had a traditional understanding of the role of women too...? Possibly. Possibly not...? Anyway, when I drew the discussion to a close, these two carried on debating at quite a loud volume and it took another minute or so for them to stop before I could continue. Apparently the right-wing guy was actually arguing that the passage applied to us all. If he was, that's a step in the right direction for him...

Anyway, I followed up with a few examples from the Bible of women involved in roles that are not traditionally women's roles and then prayed for wisdom for us all.

I think it may have been the most feminist sermon that's been preached at my church.

I'll leave you with Solomon's song, revamped into 1980s synth-pop:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vfgjZHSPvyw

The King lives!
; )

Date: 2018-03-11 03:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] asakiyume
That's cool that you leave room in the sermon for people to talk among themselves!

Date: 2018-03-11 06:17 pm (UTC)
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I like that you let people discuss and share opinions about the sermon and this was not you talking and they just hearing without do the process of thinking about the message and making their own opinions.

Date: 2018-03-15 05:10 am (UTC)
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Those crazy 80s ;p

Glad to read the sermon went well and you're gaining more confidence. Are you a future Pastor in the making?

Interesting to have the debate in the middle of the sermon, I'd imagine, as what happened there between the two men arguing, it would be difficult to reel everyone back in.

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